Ok so maybe romance is an overstatement. Short lived casual dating is more like it.
Anyway, since I’m not all that fond of flaming types when considering guys to date – and despise our mainstream American gay culture – I have had a hard time meeting people who are worth my time and effort to date. In the end I’ve decided that my choices are either meeting someone at church (unlikely with sites such as http://godhatesfags.com out there) or meeting someone on an online dating site. For my own safety, I chose the latter.
I should preface this with saying that I’ve always considered online dating sites for lame fat people who are unable to get laid – or people looking ONLY to get laid – so I’ve never taken the time to get involved with one. However, I finally took the time to join OKCupid which is a fairly effective (and free) dating site. It asks you a series of questions about yourself and how your ideal match would answer the questions and gauges a relationship compatibility based on your answers.
I met a few people people on there right off the bat, two guys who seemed to be different than the stereotypes, perhaps deep, and worth my while. The first guy I met is called Ryan and the second is called Jose.
Ryan and I hit it off almost immediately – but then I met Jose who asked me out before Ryan and I got a chance to talk too much. I of course said yes even though I felt a bit uneasy about meeting online people. We met at Hillcrest Cinemas and saw the movie Revolutionary Road, went to a hookah lounge to watch belly dancing and finally ate breakfast at 1:30 in the morning.
I thought the date went very well. It was a bit long for a first date but it was fun. And, as I would have it no other way, it ended with a kiss on the cheek. Our society is so cliche for ending up in bed on a first date and I just find that ridiculous and low class.
Throughout the date and throughout the pre-date and post-date text/phone flirting, Jose was the perfect guy. He knew the right things to say, remembered little details such as me having a test or interview and seemed to really care. I really liked that. In short, he did the mushy well. But regardless of any other aspect of him, I just didn’t feel the chemistry – I was not attracted to him. And that isn’t to say that he is unattractive. He’s decent looking. Just…I don’t know, couldn’t get into him.
As cliche as this sounds, I thought to myself that I was the problem, I’m shallow or something and maybe if I gave him more time I could come to find him attractive. It never happened.
When I went to San Francisco the weekend of the 14th, he and his friend Christopher also happened to be up there that weekend. My friend Carrie and I met them at the corner of Haight/Ashbury and went driving around. We had random adventures around the city, went shopping, went to Starbucks, etc. But the entire time, Jose and Christopher were making comments about everything we passed. Some of them were funny like “oh my GODDDDDD. That maternity store is so fucking cute!” and “oh my GODDDDDD woman, are you waiting for a better paint job” when a lady hesitated at a light. They were truly hilarious, in true flamboyant fashion – but flamboyance is a huge turn off to me.
In the end, I just decided that Jose’s conformity to gay mainstream culture was a turn off to me. His need to go to gay bars and clubs to pick up guys, even while casually dating me, was a turn off. His need to comment on everything in a super obnoxious way, be it positive or negative, was a huge turn off. Ultimately, he was a huge turn off.
All of it was a huge shame though because he really is a genuinely nice guy. He has long term potential. He’s very good at the mushy.
When I got home from San Francisco I lamely told him by text message that I don’t think we should continue dating each other – that I am not attracted to him and that he seems to be attracted to me – and that I don’t want to lead him on.
This was the extent of our interchange:
Jose: Morning! Don’t know if you’re working this morning but I hope you’re having a good one. PS: We still need to celebrate valentine’s. Just the two of us.
Me: Jose I really like you, but I’m just not feeling the chemistry with you. Maybe I’m still hung up on a past relationship. Maybe you’re just not my type. I don’t know but I know you are interested and I don’t want to lead you on. So I do not want to continue dating. Sorry. And I’m sorry to do this by text but I can’t talk at the moment.
Jose: My friends told me to end it after the first date but I thought you were different. I guess you don’t know what you want or aren’t mature enough for a relationship. I don’t think we were in a situation to really get to know each other on Saturday so that was probably not a good idea but had hoped to get another chance. I guess you don’t want that. You’re missing out.
Me: Maybe. I guess I’ll see.
Jose: I need to get something off my chest. 1. What happened to “you’re prefect”. And 2. That trench coat was so tacky! I guess that’s why I didn’t wanna be too close to you on Saturday you looked homeless.
Me: 1. You really are perfect. You do all the mushy stuff well. Are generally attractive, etc. But I’m just not attracted to you. I think its due to the obnoxious flamboyance. Or maybe the need to talk about every person you pass. I am not and never will be part of the gay mainstream culture. I have too much self respect. So like I said, everything you did was right. It’s just who you are that I can’t deal with. And I’m not naive enough to expect someone to change who they are for me. 2. Trench coat I think goes hand in hand with the whole shallow gay mainstream need to put people down. I don’t see it as relevant, but ok sure?
Jose: I’m pretty sure you made snarky remarks about the music playing in the car and made negative comments about burning man and coachella, both things you know nothing about. Also starting you were going to start drama with your family is not very mature and just as queeny and flamboyant. I can’t take your closeted views of gay culture seriously. It exposes your internalized homophobia. It’s not that you’ll never be part of the culture, you won’t allow yourself to be part of it until you let go of the negative stigmas and embrace who you are. Good luck with that. You’re holding yourself and others from coming together and fighting for equality.
Me: Sounds like I’m going you a favor then
Blogging about this makes me upset all over again. I started out, being sensitive to his feelings, being kind, not really saying what I mean, beating around the bush, etc and he comes up with all of this mean bullshit.
First of all, he told me that he told his friends about me and they were all happy for him, that he found someone who isn’t like everyone else, who is different. He and they as a group found that refreshing. So what is it? Why either lie to begin with or lie to try to insult someone. It was two dates! Hardly a dramatic break up.
My trench coat made me look like I’m homeless? HAHA. That is just an overly childish attempt at a below-the-belt insult. My trench coat is hot. Carrie said so. And I trust her judgement. I look like Neo from the Matrix. Jose is just jealous. He should be focusing on professional fashion rather than “gay” brands like Abecrombie & Fitch, American Eagle and Aeropostale that very much do not fit his frame. Does he not realize how obnoxious a form fitting polo shirt looks on someone who weighs 300 pounds?
Snarky comments about music playing in the car? I didn’t even know what the songs were! Never heard of them. How is that snarky asking who a band is? Coachella and Burning Man. All I commented was that I would die if I was in the desert for 3 days without a shower. Yup, that’s queeny, I’m guilty!
Finally, I do not see how not wanting to be a statistic makes me internally homophobic. A public image of gay males as being obnoxious, crude, overly sexual and flamboyant to the point of social isolation into places like Hillcrest, Castro, Province Town, etc. Yes, that kind of image is going to bring us equality. That’s what we need. More flamers marching in parades and making complete fools of themselves. I’m the one holding the LGBT population back from equality. From change. By being a socially acceptable and successful member of society. Who isn’t on fast track to AIDS from hooking up with guys from bars and clubs.
Anyway, rant done. Now I have taken the time to connect with Ryan, the other guy from OKCupid. I see real potential. He is not a flamer. Has a lot of the same interests as me. Definitely has an attraction factor in there. And even in the beginning, he accepts and desires me as I am. What more can one ask for?